Friday, January 11, 2008

AWNM Intro. thru Chapter Three Fishbowl/LiveBlog Per. 4

80 comments:

mmoritz said...

Good luck today!

dermodys said...

I don't think that this quote is as much trying to tell what each side does but more that we need both to get the whole story.

matta said...

On what Olivia stated, it shows the way the different hemispheres look and function. The right is more creative and looks at everything as a whole, where as the left brain will break it down into something that is sequential, but means the same thing.

marissas said...

The right brain and the left brain correspond with each other. The left brain is just a single picture because you see the picture at face value. The right brain is a thousand words because you see all the details in the picture and the meaning of it. Without one half, your brain would not be able to comprehend easy everyday things.

Dennis K said...

In response to Olivia’s question, I would relate the right hemisphere to a more random and illogical character. On the contrary, the left hemisphere could be defined as the complete opposite. Logical and sequential thinking is derived from the brain, as stated before, the complete opposite of the left.

stephanief said...

I think the quote is showing us how both sides of the brain are very important, the two sides work together. Without one we would be incomplete.

matta said...

Marissa you may have mixed up the right and left brains

dermodys said...

This is Kira:

Wow. We do live in such an abundant country and world. I went on a missions trip to Mexico and the people that I saw their are so poor. They have nothing and are so happy, yet we have almost everything that we want and are not half as happy as them most of the time.

marissas said...

I agree with what Hilary is saying because we live in a country today where food can't just be the same everyday thing. It needs to have something else. People always want more and the best of whatever they want. Chipotle does a good job of setting up an environment that people want to be in. Presentation is everything.

Tasha P said...

back to the first question, when we watched that video, Daniel Pink said that normally people say "A picture is worth a thousand words" and he was commenting how he turned it around and put it as "A metaphor is worth a thousand pictures". I think he was relating to the whole right and left brain idea in a way that says that the right brain can understand the big idea and the big picture that the left brain probably cannot. I think the right brain is able to comprehend the metaphor "with a thousand pictures" because that's how D. Pink described it also because the left brain is more sequential and specifically in order. I think that "A picture is worth a thousand words" is for the left brain and "A metaphor is worth a thousand pictures" is for the right brain.

rachels said...

Answering Olivia's question: because we have relative abundance in America, businesses like Chipotle have to rely on creative advertising to sell their product in an enviornment where there's so many choices. They need to make their product stand out to be sucsessful. Businesses are no longer selling only the product, but the ambience of it. (I agree with Hillary and Ana.)

matta said...

How about the cups at Chipotle? They have these interesting stories, to "enhance" the meal. It goes along with what the center circle is saying.

stephanief said...

I agree with Olivia, that the food has to be good quality but if it's expensive alot of people are not going to want to spend the money.

shannanp said...

I don’t think that abundance really has to do with right brainers ruling the future because left brain and right brained people are both affected by it.

Dennis K said...

I loved Anna’s example about taco bell, today abundance has penetrated even the taco business! It’s absolutely correct to say that competition is visible in this seemingly fruitless business. There are so many taco sellers; think about taco bell, chipotle, baja fresh, and numerous smaller chains scattered throughout the US. They all compete, just like the inner ring referenced, even cups and bags are competing for the best labels!

marissas said...

Matt, I'm pretty sure that i didnt' mix it up. The left brain is logical. You see the picture and think logically about it. The right brain sees the whole picture and you see the meaning behind it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

stephanief said...

To get people to by your stuff you have to make it different and unique so that people will be attracted to it. Like going into the store to buy black shoes, there are hundereds of choices. So to get someone to buy yours shoes you have to make it unique.

jordans said...

I agree with Hilary. When you are paying a large amount of money for little product you are buying more than just a burrito. You are paying for an experience and for a lifestyle. Compared to places like Taco Bell, Chipotle is gourmet and it appears classy. People want to become an image and they have to sell themselves as that image. What I mean is, is people create their image in everything they do even down to the food they buy and consume. So in a way food chains and consumer products are selling you yourself and your own image.

mmoritz said...

Who (what country, which people) makes the clothes you are wearing? Is it our forefathers that made this possible?

Tasha P said...

I agree with Hillary because the abundance of our country is what makes us unique and different from the world. The abundance relates to how we appeal to the good-looking stuff from the store making our right brain more imporant I guess in that field.

dermodys said...

This is Kira:

I see what Carlee is saying. We didn't choose where we were born. We just got blessed beyond the other kids in the world.

matta said...

Shannon said that she does not think that abundance has anything to do with right brainers ruling the future, but I disagree. With all of the abundance that we have, it is no longer enough for something to be useful, because there are a hundred other things that do the same thing. That is why we need right brainers to design new products that are more than just useful, the need to be asthetic, and somewhat like a form of art.

shannanp said...

One of the reasons that we have so much abundance is that we have all of the opportunities, people in other countries are working so much harder than a lot of the people in America; however we succeed because of the abundance of opportunity in this country.

Dennis K said...

In response to Shannon’s post: I would probably have to disagree with that statement because even though abundance affects both right and left brainers, the production of all this overflow requires a very right- brained type of person. It’s that person’s job to devise the most economical and efficient products through creativity and other right brained- oriented qualities. Just like the taco bell example, even seemingly innocent tacos are competing for the best emotional and convenient values. That takes a lot of right brains.

marissas said...

Well clothing gets made all over the world, China India etc. I don't necessarily think that our forefathers even knew how abundant the U.S. would become. Their plan did not involve our clothing, but I think their plans were more indirect and they just wanted the lives of Americans to improve. It is the people today who meet the demands of the population of the people and make these manufatures possible.

dermodys said...

I think we see what oliva says alot, especially with childeren- we might buy them an expensive toy but they have more fun with the box then the toy.

Tasha P said...

I agree with Olivia because we have to realize that America has so much more stuff than basically the rest of the world and we have to realize that we are more priveleged than a lot of people in the world. And I also agree with Seth in the sense that we grew up with abundance. America's next generation is growing up with more stuff and it might be harder for other generations to understand all of the things that we are recieving and basically what we're raised with.

dermodys said...

Kira Here:

Kids are so easy. They see the simple thing in life. Why do we, as "adults", do we have to make it so hard?

jordans said...

I agree with Maddison. We use different parts of our left and right brain to achieve and obtain certain abundances than we do to enjoy and take for granted those abundances. You can always enhance your left brain and become more intelligent but is it possible to enhance your creativity, depth, or even your own happiness? The graph showed that as technology and society changes happiness does not.

helenp said...

The abundance in America seems to have taken away from meaning and knowledge of ourselves. People are drowning in material possessions that they don't know what to do with anymore and many Americans still aren't satisfied.

stephanief said...

I agree with Karly, kids all over the world are so much more thankfull for little things, unlike kids in the US want more and more and they still are not happy.

marissas said...

I agree with Karly and Ana because we take everything for granted. it's just like the saying, you don't miss anything until it's gone. Sometimes we do make our lives miserable buy wanting more. We should be thankful and have fun daily with what we do have.

dermodys said...

Kira:

Wow Carlee! I know what you mean. It bugs me to see how hard off they have it and and how easy they are to please.

rachels said...

I think the graph showing how satisfaction, or happiness, has remained at the same level even as the standard of living has risen dramatically shows that even with abundance, it doesnt affect people on an emotional level in the long run. The challenge to businesses is to convince potential buyers that their product will make them happier, even when what they're selling isn't needed.

Coled said...

I agree with what the inner circle is saying about the abundance of goods in a world of limited resources, and I can easily relate because in my intro to business class we are discussing the topic of unlimited goods and the never-ending wants of people, yet the resources of the world are limited, and we fail to see it. This is because most Americans are able to obtain a career where they are able to live comfortably, with income left over for the sole purpose of making our lives luxurious. This relates to the amount the United States spends on trash bags, and how that is more than many country's total income. And yet we are not satisfied with what we have, and act as major consumers throughout the world, creating that never-ending want which always fails to satisfy.

dermodys said...

Kira:

Even People in Denver are home less. It's not Just in other countries.

Tasha P said...

In response to
Sabrina's comment, I think one of the reason adults make things hard is because maybe they feel they must. ANd maybe it's because our society today is so completitive and you have to "fight" your way up to the top and adults think at it very seriously. But kids, all they want to to is have fun and it's so unfortunate that they have to grow up to the reality that the world isn't as carefree as they would want it to be because the adults have made it hard for them to adapt in some cases.

dermodys said...

While people are getting more and more and not getting any happier, they look for meaning in thier life by doing different things, and I feel that that should lead us to our next point. How right brainers are going to help us with the meaning in our lives. Just look at yoga classes.

shannanp said...

Matt, I also disagree with what you are saying because not everyone is going to buy products because of how they look, the lower class Americans, people that we aren’t that often exposed, don’t care what something looks like, they want it to be useful. Also, this is about half of the world! They don’t care what anything looks like, they want to buy it for cheap and if it is going to get the job done. Also, not just the lower class people do this, I know personally, my mom just looks for things that cost the least, not how it looks.

helenp said...

I agree with Tasha about our competative society. Once people have mastered one area it becomes expected. It is not enough to be smart, a person has to be well rounded too.

marissas said...

I think that these little thigs like the flyswater that has a great design does bring us happiness but not a long happiness. You are happy that you get it but its not true happiness.

matta said...

On the topic of happieness, I don't think new products and a more right brained economy will bring more happieness to people. It is just a matter of how the gap increases the more people will want to be happier, and the reasons right brainers will rule the future is that they are good at making people think products will make them happy, even if it is false.

Tasha P said...

It's kind of interesting how we as Americans, since we are so much more abundant and priveleged than the rest of the world, how we look for design more than how useful a product is. And most of the world will want something because they can use it and it can be helpful which is going along with what Shannon was saying. AMerica is starting to focus on how things look rather than what they can do.

dermodys said...

This is Kira:
Why does a fly swatter make us happy? That is crazy.
Like Olivia is saying, Personal interaction is what really makes you happy not the new toilet brush that you got for Christmas.

matta said...

Shannon I agree on the last post, but I was talking about how abundance will affect the future, which I think is true, even with the factor of cost.

Dennis K said...

Shannon, I would have to disagree with your last comment. You stated that most people purchase for functionality, which I would agree is the main reason, but think about your mom’s car. There are millions of cars in production, your mom probably purchased the car she did for 1) functionality but for also 2) appearance. I think that we can all agree that ugly cars do exist and maybe even more attractive and more economical alternatives exist.

marissas said...

I agree that Daniel Pink is not telling us how to live and buy the most expensive, prettiest items. To adapt to what our society wants, a job as a designer would make us prosperous. That is how our country is becoming.

jordans said...

In response to Jacklyn (sorry if I spelled it wrong) I think that people achieve levels of happiness not by objects but by meaning and connection. How people look won’t give me fulfillment but the depth and affection they can show me will make me happy. When you look back at things that make you smile you remember memories not design. People who are blind find meaning so why cant people who can see? Has sight become a handicapping sense?

helenp said...

Society is telling people that things like fly swatters will make us happy. People are unhappy, so they are willing to believe what they are told to achieve happiness.

dermodys said...

I agree with Mrs Moritz about the whole brand name thing...just look around our school every other girl has a designer name purse, but does having the designer name really bring us any happiness. I would just be mad if I came to school with a 1,000 dollar purse that the girl next to me has as well so I think that these desingers need to make things original and unique.This might bring us more happiness. If we can make these things less expensive we can use the rest of our desposible income towards helping others.

marissas said...

So, What is your definition of happiness? Is it right to attacth meaning to inanimate objects? Also, the media does not help because advertisers make us think that we cannot live without a certain product. They make us think that a product will give us happiness so we are convinced that we are happy.

Tasha P said...

I agree with Mrs. Moritz and to continue with that Americans need to realize that what things look like doesnt' matter as much as a person's welfare and happiness. The little things that make us happy or feel good like taking the time to help someone else are what really matters, not a $13 flyswatter.

dermodys said...

This is Kira:
My mom always tells me that with freedom comes responsibility. It has to be your choice to take the advice, but can it make us a better group of people to help those people that are starving to death?

matta said...

I agree with kira, and like I said, people think the will be happier with this product due to design and marketing, but in no way will it actually make them any happier. Although I also think that if you take away these products people will indeed become unhappy, at least for a time, because of the memory of those products

Dennis K said...

Dermodes, I completely agree with your statement. I’ve even noticed that my sister goes to American eagle a lot of the time for the brand name, not the specific article of clothing!

Tasha P said...

I agree with Anna because the right thing to do is WAY more important than what people get out of something. (Nice example from history)

matta said...

About the brand names, I think that may be a status symbol. Like, if you wear brand x you are cool.

jordans said...

I partly disagree with Marissa. I think Daniel Pink is trying to show us what society wants but is warning us that society is controlling us, its controlling what we think happiness is and what we think wewant and need and telling us to think twice about what happiness really is and how to achieve it

dermodys said...

Helping others is great and it is something we really should try to do but even if every abundant american did something to help we are not going to stop world hunger or save durfur. For you see in debatate are talking about this and some of the time when we donate it doesn't help it just gives money to the terrorist organizations we don't even know about. Just look at darfur, everytime when we donate there it is just taken away from thoes we are donating to and givin to the corrupt ones in power

stephanief said...

I think that people such as in the U.S would rather spend money on themselves rather than helping someone else because America has become kind of selfish. They see the adds on tv that tell them how happy they'll be if they buy this product, but when comercials come on asking for money or help for the needy, they don't say anything really about how happy they will be after they have helped someone.

dermodys said...

This is Kira:
With Marissa's question, what is your deffinition of happiness?, i think that my answer is that happines is the feeling that you get inside when you have acomplished something amazing, or done something to help the greater good. I know that I feel warm inside if I help others.

Coled said...

but tasha, when you are faced with that desicion, which are you going to choose. Most likely, people are going to choose the most convenient choice.

shannanp said...

I agree with Jacklyn in that our country is built on so much superficiality. We buy products because they look good…but why? Do we think that that makes us better, or happier? Mostly the answer is no. If designer toilet brushes weren’t made in the first place, no one would ever really care for one. We buy them and they are created from the huge amount of competition in this country because everyone wants to be the best. This is also in the right and left brain competition, I think that this book is sort of saying that people who are creative are so much better than logical people and that’s just not right. There will always be a place for logic and a place for being creative. Take building a car for example, a creative person can’t build a car alone, they don’t know the right measurements. And a logical person can’t just build a car alone because they don’t see the details or what some people will be looking at in design when buying it. Both right-brainers and left-brainers are needed for the future, one won’t be dominant over the other.

matta said...

Ignorace is bliss, because if you don't know about things, they can't bother you, like the Holocaust, the people who don't know about it, aren't saddend by it.

Dennis K said...

Commenting on Mrs. Moritz’s introduction to Asia: Asia scares me; In accordance with the book, all right brainers will be able to keep their jobs, but the rest of the public might become seriously affected.

Tasha P said...

I am unsure about the whole Asia concept because if someone can do something for cheaper then why are they doing it for cheaper? If a job is worth a certain amount, why would someone from India do it for less $? Is it because what they're recieving is more than what they are used to? Or is it because (like Olivia was saying) we're offering them opportunities?

marissas said...

Outsourcing in Asia is scary to me. I don't think that jobs should be taken away from Americans. It may create more jobless people. Asians can do these jobs but maybe to help their own people. It is also very frustrating to call a helpline for a product like a computer and not be able to talk to someone you can understand. Americans have the capabilities to does these jobs and I think we should keep these jobs here in the U.S.

matta said...

About asia, remeber in the video and the picture of the Indian tech workers, he said they were paid way less, but he also stated that they are still able to live a middle class lifestyle easily, the cost of living is different.

dermodys said...

This is Kira:
It is pretty sad that the average McDonalds worker makes a similar income to the briliant people in the rest of the world that can do things that I don't even understand how they work.

dermodys said...

But guys they are earning about the same when you even out currency, thoes people that have thoes accounting jobs are living the good life in thier countries. It might not seem like alot of money there but IT IS!

Coled said...

dennis i agree that what daniel pink is saying is difficult to grasp due to the fact that it is an enormous amount of change. However, its not like this is going to happen overnight, and it isnt going to affect everyone with a left brained job. They arent completely overrunning the L-brained job, simply replacing some of us

Tasha P said...

cole that's true but if people choose the most convenient choice, how do you know that they will feel good about it?

helenp said...

Well outsourcing is happening, whether you like it or not, so we need to adjust. If others can do a job for less at equal quality, soon the person who makes more will make nothing!

jordans said...

Do you think the majority of people in Asia are happier than in America?

Coled said...

tasha, im not saying they will feel good about it, but i doubt their sliver of guilt is really going to affect their desicions. Sure, its wrong, but that doesnt cchange that it happens

matta said...

If outsourcing is scary, then you could do one of these: Move to india, or do something with your skills that is unique and non repitory enough to be outsourced, there are still jobs that use left and right brain that cannot be outsourced, just be a surgen instead of a physician

shannanp said...

So are the people in Asia just going to take our jobs, I don't think Daniel Pink makes this very clear.

Dennis K said...

Jordan, I think that people in America are generally happier than the people residing in Asia because, remember, the Asians primarily consist of unskilled workers who don’t get paid as well as other countries.

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