Friday, February 15, 2008

AWNM Play Fishbowl/LiveBlog Per. 3

Participants for February 15th LiveBlog:

Dan Maas:
Dan is the Chief Information Officer for Littleton Public Schools as well as a parent of a LPS student.

Jeff Whipple:
Jeff is a technology mentor from Fredericton, NB, Canada. Jeff started teaching only five years ago and has over the course of a few years been, “… forced to readjust, rethink and relearn all that I had previously known.” Jeff moved from the rural school to Nashwaaksis Middle School where he is transforming his school to be the largest 1:1 laptop school in Canada. He comments about the entire venture, “There is a revolution taking place, and our students are the revolutionaries. We can either join them in a velvet transition, or be run over by the trucks.”

Tim Stahmer:
Tim is an Instructional Technology Specialist working in the Office of Instructional Technology Integration for an overly-large school district on the Virginia side of Washington DC. He taught middle and high school math as well as computer literacy. For the past 11 years he has helped teachers, administrators and others at all levels make sense of technology in their classrooms and, of course, repaired a few computers and printers along the way. These days he works mostly with the technology trainers in elementary schools.

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Jeff Whipple said...

Arrived...just checking in...back in a couple of minutes....

Tim said...

Hi Everyone, it's nice to be joining you this morning.

Karl Fisch said...

Getting ready to start in a couple of minutes.

Karl Fisch said...

Are you getting audio/video okay in mebeam?

Tim said...

Loud and clear

Tim said...

video too

Jeff Whipple said...

Great to be joining you all again this morning (actually...afternoon here on the East Coast of Canada...:)

Jeff Whipple said...

loud and clear here...:)

AlyssaC said...

Truthfully, I agree with Catherine, I don't think that laughter alone is play, but the product of play

kelseyl said...

Do you guys think that videogames help or hurt society and relationships?

Tim said...

Pink quotes Henry Ford about keeping work and play completely separate. Is that the way we try to make school function?

AlyssaC said...

ARethere different times where play ius appropriate, and time where play is not?

Caryn S said...

So Alyssa, if laughter is a product of play, what causes laughter?

MattN said...

Do you guys think that play is a necesity for being successful?

Mikenn@R said...

I definetly agree with alyssa. Mr. Pink should not just talk about laughing as a form of play but in other aspects as well. What do you think are other forms of play?

AlyssaC said...

Tim:
Yes, I think that's how our school, tries to educate us without play, involoved. But I think it would be more effecient if we did incorporate more play into our education.

hollyb said...

I think to be successful, you do need to know how to play. Without having play the job would be boring too.

Tim said...

alyssaC: certainly there are appropriate times not to play. But is it possible we as a society take things too seriously?

kelseyl said...

alyssa

I do think that there is an appropriate time to play and an inappropriate time to play. Somethimes there is situatations when yhou need to be serious, like at a funeral. But then there are other times when it is okay to play because it helps to make connections in learning and things like that.

OliviaO said...

Is laughter play? Why or why not?

AlyssaC said...

Caryn, I laugh, from playing, and just having a good time, and that doesn't neccesarily mean that I'm not learning, but it means that I could be subconsiously learning without totally focusing on my learning.

Jennifer said...

Kelsey- I think that videogames can be benifical to an extent, but they can also be harmful (in relationships specifically). Videogames can help you think in new ways and strategize, but they limit the amount of time spent communicating with other people and developing in depth relationships.

emilyh said...

Tim, I think that since school is different than work, there can be less seriousness and more play. However there should also be play in work but probably less play in work than in school.

KelsieL said...

Caryn- Laughter is a product of play. That is the point Alyssa is trying to make.

Tim said...

People think of science as a "serious" profession. But isn't experimentation similar to playing?

mollyd said...

kelsey l-

I think videogames aren't that beneficial to society. People get so obsessed with them and then that is all they do. They don't interact with others and personally I think they are a waste of time. For example last night I went to dinner with my family. My cousin brought a game boy and the whole time he was just staring at the screen, and after a while my brother started playing with him. So during dinner they were both tuned out and not talking. So I really don't like videogames, and don't see the point.

AmberG said...

I think play helps keep you going. If all you do is work then you are going to tire out and not want to continue to get things done.

MattN said...

Olivia- Laughter is definitaly a sense of play,but I really think that the laughter clubs are not a sense of play or even laughter at all for that matter.

Caryn S said...

Tim-I think more and more our teachers are incorporating play into our school life. Some activities are kept seperate from play, but I am realizing that my teachers are including games into our learning.

AlyssaC said...

Tim:

Yes, I think at times we can take things to seriously, because sometimes we just get caught up in what we are doing, and we just need to take a second, and think about what is going on, and then we might be able to take it less seriously and lessen the tension, which could sometimes help situations function better

KelsieL said...

Caryn- Play causes laughter, sorry I didn't read your question the right way at first :)

Jeff Whipple said...

I know sometimes I often take my job way to seriously, but then again, I find that my job is very much like play...and I think many jobs in the 21st century will be "playlike"

erinp said...

I agree with Kelsey. Play is a good sense to have, like during school, work, or just being with friends. But there is also times when play isn't appropriate, sometimes it's not at school or work.

Caryn S said...

But Matt, the laughter clubs do eventually have genuine laughter.

kelseyl said...

In 6th grade we did simulations and reenactments for social studies and we had compititions. We were learning about ancient Greece so we had a day when we all competed in the Olympics. We also got points for dressing up and got points for our groups. It was really fun to pretend that we were actually people back then and it also sticks out in my mind as something that I learned a lot about.

Tim said...

Video games are like anything else. They can be good or bad and they can be overused and become harmful. I like puzzle games but I've never been good at the ones that require lots of speed.

Mikenn@R said...

Tim- I really thought that quote was fitting in proving how society has progressed from a strictly business matter to a fun working atmosphere. In my school career, I think that the teachers really shape the structure of the classroom so therefore they can control the environment. I think that why so many kids don't like school is because teachers don't incorporate play into their lessons enough. I know that I would enjoy learning more if we made it more enjoyable, and we can do that and still learn at the same time

Jennifer said...

In response to Matt- I do think that play is necessary to be successful. If you don't have any play at all, than all you would have is work. After a while, you would get so tired of it just because it may not be something you really enjoy, and then maybe be not as productive at the task.

Caryn S said...

Well Kelsie, what aspect of play causes laughter?

Jeff Whipple said...

Certainly, if you look at video games, young people are "learning" all kinds of skills...why can't we take that model (of play) and bring it into schools?

OliviaO said...

How do videogames help us and not help us? Why are some people so opposed to them? We cant get rid of them. What type of person is against them?

rrapp said...

But you can play during anything if you put your mind to it...

kennaw said...

Wait, can someone please explain what play is in general because I'm not getting it at all???!!!

erinp said...

I definetly disagree with Catherine D., because there is more than one type of play, laughter is one of them but there are definetly more types. And you can have a play test.

emilyh said...

Tim, I think that Science, at least in our schools, is taught with such structure and quickly that there is little time to have fun while doing experiments. Maybe real scientists have fun when they have enough time to do other experiments.

hollyb said...

I thinkl that laughter is all that play is. Play is also physical besides mental. I agree with Mattr that they're different forms of play. What do you think some of those forms are

hollyb said...

I thinkl that laughter is all that play is. Play is also physical besides mental. I agree with Mattr that they're different forms of play. What do you think some of those forms are?

AmberG said...

I definitely think you can play in any field, including science. Yes, you have to concentrate in science so you not make a mistake, but you also have to play around to make discoveries.

lisal said...

I don't agree with Catherine D's definition of play. You don't have to be doing something fun to be playing. Wether you're playing or not depends on your attitude.

Jennifer said...

Matt- I don't understand what you are trying to say. Do you think that laughter is a sense of play or not?

Tim said...

kennaw: the way Pink is defining "play" is pretty broad. I think he is more referring to taking a playful attitude toward work.

MattN said...

Caryn- Yes and at that point the laughter becomes genuine but when the laughter first starts it isn't genuine and I really don't think that that is really considered play because it is forced and not real.

hollyb said...

isn't all that play is. sorry!

Dan Maas said...

Play celebrates struggle and usually doesn't punish. Should our grading practices reflect that concept?

AlyssaC said...

rrap:

I think that you can play at anything if you put your mind to it, because I know that I 'put play' into all the aspects of my life that I can, because I know that I learn better, and just have a better time when I play!!

Jeff Whipple said...

How would you incorporate play into, for instance, the study of the Pythagorean Theorem? Are there ways to learn through play?

kelseyl said...

Molly

I deffinatley agree that videogames affect relationships because my brother started getting really involved in videogames and that is all he would do is play videogames and sleep. On the weekends he would play for hours on end and become very introverted and wouldn't talk or even answer questions that people would ask him. Videogames can be pretty bad when it starts to take over your life.

Tim said...

In playing a video game you always have the reset button. :-)

KelsieL said...

Play, like Matt N said, isn't necessarily swinging on swings and throwing balls around. It can but, but more than anything it is just enjoying yourself. You can hang out and play with your friends and laugh, but you can also laugh and enjoy yourself at school or work.

rrapp said...

You can't fail at play, because it's spontaneous happenings and you don't really have a goal in play

MattN said...

Jennifer, I am not saying that laughter isn't play, but when laughter is forced like in laughter clubs it isn't genuine and its not the same as natural laughter that actually makes you feel good inside.

Mikenn@R said...

Lisa- I definetly agree. You make your own play during a situation. And things that are "fun" aren't always fun to everybody because everybody is different. So play I think is what you do to entertain yourself during a situation.

Jennifer said...

Amber makes a really good point. You have to play around to make new discoveries. It may not be the kind of play that we think of (like swinging) but it is a necessary kind of play. We also need to discover what we consider play and what we don't as individual people.

AmberG said...

Kenna, I would say play is anything that lets you have fun and makes you feel happy. I don't know if that really helps you though.

erinp said...

Olivia:
videogames can help people wtih certain things. In middle school, when we watched Channel One, I remember seeing something about a videogame that was made for kids with a disease, like cancer. It was able to show them what was going on in their body.
But videogames don't really help us with much else. In Halo, you just shoot people. That doesn't help anyone, and I personally think it's sorta pointless. They also decrease your social skills if every day all you do is play Halo, and stop hanging out with your friends.

Caryn S said...

I don't know Matt, I think the people in the laughter clubs are almost playing a game and the game results in genuine laughter.

kelseyl said...

Is play just an escape from the really world?

Do people play videogames because they know that they will always be able to restart and they know that they can't do that in real life.

MattN said...

Tim- Yes you are definitaly correct playing games definitaly aren't life and death situations and you always have the reset button like you said. :)

mollyd said...

I think in school it would be helpful to treat work more like play. If people fail they should not feel as if it is a huge loss. They just wake up the next day and try hard and should not dwell on the one time they failed.

Jeff Whipple said...

@kelseyl true...vid games can be addictive...but couldn't you say the same thing about weightlifting, sports, etc...it's all about balance

OliviaO said...

Jeff whipple- There are ways to learn through play. Like in math a person could draw or try to build the pythagorean theorem if that makes since. Play is usually more physical than mental.

hollyb said...

Molly: Videogames don't have to take over your life. They can used in moderation. To take a load off of someones life. But if they do take over someones life, it has gone to far.

Tim said...

kelseyl: certainly play can be an escape from the real word. And people need that every so often. But are you always trying to escape when you play?

Caryn S said...

@ Erin-maybe playing Halo is their way to hang out with friends.

AlyssaC said...

Jeff W:

I know that when we were firsdt learning the Pythagorean Theorem, that we would do experiments to test it, and discover more about it, and i think that when doing the tests and everything, that we were playing

AmberG said...

Here is a question, is it possible for us to play while blogging and listening to the inner circle?

Jennifer said...

Matt- OK thanks. So what is considered "genuine" laughter? I mean, I get it when you say that it makes you feel good inside, but when does forced laughter become genuine?

MattN said...

Caryn: Yes I totally understand what you are saying but laughter(like at the begininning of most laughter clubs) isn't genuine and it really , I don't think, really involves play because its not real laughter.

emilyh said...

Jeff, I think that we could incorporate play into learning by doing hands on projects. For instance when learning the Pygathorean Theorum we could use spaghetti noodles that are hard and experiment with them so that the lengths of the base squared plus the lengths of the leg squared would equal the hypotenuse. When we incorporate play into learning than we learn things without losing them in a few minutes.

mollyd said...

Kelsey L-

I like what you said about videogames. If someone fails, they can always just start over, but in life you can't do that. I have never thought about that before. It is really interesting.

OliviaO said...

Erin- Are you more pro videogame or against it? If you could change videogames today how could you do it?

kennaw said...

Honestly, like I said in class before, I'm against video games that are way addicting. Most video games area addicting. I'm not saying I hate them because I play them myself, but Ive seen someone's life literally crumble and go into depression, and almost commit suicide because of it. I've been in the position of watching my mom and dad battle to get my brother back on track. My brother dropped everything and focused on video games. There wasn't one day that went by for two years he didn't play at least 5 hours and actually more. TWO YEARS!!! There's more too it, but I'm not getting into it. In all, I'm against games that get you hooked and you can't stop playing. I'm against games that make you become more violent in you real life because you play it so much you bring th game into your life style. I mean there's a game coming out about bullying. Like, seriously, bullying. People are going to play this game and bully a little kid. That's a serious issue in life and shouldn't be made into a game. What if people start to incorporate it into their lifestyle? Think about it, certain video games aren't needed and they aren't for play.

Dan Maas said...

Here's a definition of play: play is a learning process where mistakes are encouraged and success is always possible.

hollyb said...

Amber: If you play a game online, then yes, but physical play, I dont think that you could.

MattN said...

Yes, Video games don't always need to be violent and an escape from things, people might just do it to escape the stresses of everyday life.

Tim said...

Most painters don't being painting because they want to make money. You probably can't say that about lawyers. :-)

kelseyl said...

Tim

No I don't think that people are always trying to escape when they are playing. But sometimes they just want to get away from all the stress and junk in their lives.

Mikenn@R said...

Amber- I think that's a good point. I believe you can have fun as long as you make it fun. And no offense, but this is hard for me to "play" with

Jeff Whipple said...

@alyssa and @olivia exactly, we can incorporate play into almost anything...it's more a mindset than anything...even "tests" can be play based...(I heard the class talking about this)...

kennaw said...

Okay now that i read over my comment I realize that i sound very, very against video games. But I'm for cartoon video games that are fun and you get bored of after a while because you beat the game in like an hour.

mollyd said...

Holly- I get what you are saying, but I think people need to know when it is the right time to play and the wrong time to play. They also need to know when too much is too much.

Caryn S said...

Jennifer-I think everyone knows when their own laughter becomes genuine, it's just one of those things you know. I think, though that other people can't tell when eachother's laughter is genuine.

MattN said...

Dan- That is really good way to explain Play, but do you think that making mistakes and failing can affect the overall sense of "playing"??

kelseyl said...

Jeff

Yes there are many things that people can get addicted to and I think that pretty much once you get addicted to something it can ruin your life or drasticly change your life.

erinp said...

Caryn:
Yeah it could be but I don't know, you're not involved in anything else then. Your life would be like videogames and sleep. Even though you'd still see your friends, that would be your life. You could miss out on some things that you could regret later.

Jennifer said...

Dan Maas- I really like that definition of play! I think that when you play, you continue to make new discoveries through the mistakes you make. You realize what you think is fun and what isn't, and it will always be right for you, so it's impossible to not succeed.

Dan Maas said...

I think that when mistakes are ways to learn and have no penalty, you are playing. If your mistakes bear a penalty, the more it becomes work. The stiffer the penalty, the more serious it becomes.

rrapp said...

WHY do you have to be called a "fool" when you laugh w/ others or just play??

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lisal said...

Kenna- I agree with your opinion of video games. They can be nice escape but if you get addicted to them they can change your life.

lisal said...

Kenna- I agree with your opinion of video games. They can be nice escape but if you get addicted to them they can change your life.

Jeff Whipple said...

I like how Dan describes play...if that is true, why are our schools getting it so wrong? Do we encourage mistakes? Is success always possible (for eveyone?)

AlyssaC said...

Jeff W:
I agree because I know that when I'm totally serious, I don't think I preform as well as I could've, like when I swim I can't be totally serious when I race, because then I won't have fun. So usually when I'm on the blocks I dance and what not, to have fun, and get my heart pumping and ready. So i think you can incorporate fun and play, into almost anything..... Even tests

emilyh said...

Kelsey , I think that play can sometimes be a escape for people from the real world. But who is to say that Video games are not the real world to the person playing them. I also think that people look to games as a way to look for meaning into thier lives. For instance they like to laugh because it enriches their lives.

erinp said...

Olivia:
I really don't know if I'm more pro or against video games. I have a Wii, but I consider that a different kind of video game. Maybe it's not but that's just how I feel. I guess I'm not against videogames as long as you don't let them become your life, and you don't get too obesessed.

OliviaO said...

If play is incorporated into work would that office be more successful?

Jeff Whipple said...

Do you think many companies encourage their employees to make mistakes? I would think that more and more companies are encouraging their workers to take chances...

Tim said...

erinp: if your life is just videogames and sleep there is probably something wrong. And there are people in society who have that kind of lack of balance, both with videogames and other things.

hollyb said...

What personally do you think is funny?

KelsieL said...

Kenna- I agree with you. I play video games, but it's kindof pathetic the types of games and the way people can get addicted.

kelseyl said...

Jeff

I do not think that our schools encourage mistakes, because if we make one wrong mistake on a test or homework we get graded down and there is nothing we can do about it. We are forced to do everything right and not make mistakes so that we can make it through school.

AmberG said...

Going back to Holly's response to my question, if we were to play games online, our grades would suffer. Is play worth it?

AlyssaC said...

Isn't just the main point of a comedian just to get people to laugh, or was their main purpose, just to get themselves to laugh? If anyone kind of gets what i'm trying to mean

mollyd said...

I think in school mistakes are taken way more seriously than mistakes when you are playing. In school mistakes are not encouraged because as a student, I know there will be a consequence. When you are playing, you can just shake it off and not have to worry about the negative effect.

erinp said...

Tim:
Yeah I totally agree. We need balance, which is why I think some people get too into videogames. They don't have enough balance from doing something else, like a sport or a club.

Tim said...

AmberG: is it possible to put the material you're supposed to learn in the form of a game? I've participated in some role playing games concerning history and government that were fun and I learned something as well.

AmberG said...

So if laughter is play, what about the times that you laugh when you feel like crying. Are you using play to help you not feel bad? Do you just let go and laugh at your self?

Jennifer said...

Amber- I really do think that play is worth it. If you don't have play, then what is the point? Honestly, I know that you can't go very long without doing some kind of play. The people who don't have play at all and worry about grades too much aren't very well balanced and worry too much about school rather than make their life fun. Life isn't all about school and grades. You need a good balance.

OliviaO said...

Why do we laugh?

Jeff Whipple said...

Ok...so schools punish mistakes...how could your teachers measure "learning" without tests and marks that punish mistakes?

Jeff Whipple said...

Ok...so schools punish mistakes...how could your teachers measure "learning" without tests and marks that punish mistakes?

hollyb said...

Amber: I think it depends on what type of person you're. If you are I responible person, I don't think that video games would effect your work ethic. But if you are an irresponible person, that a different story.

emilyh said...

Jeff, I don't think that they encourage mistakes but they make being sucessful almost impossible and they set up to fail.

Tim said...

Doctors actually do play music and tell jokes during surgery.

AmberG said...

Tim, I think so. I actually think that is one of the best ways to learn.

AlyssaC said...

Amber:

I think that people need to cry, but I think that you can laugh, while crying, and you are using play to take to edge off, because you need to keep in touch with your emotions and reality, but you also need to laugh at yourself

mollyd said...

Holly- I like to laugh at random things people say. I also laugh when other people are laughing.

lisal said...

Hey guys! I have a question. Guys play video games alot more then girls. Why are video games more appealing to guys then girls?

lisal said...

Hey guys! I have a question. Guys play video games alot more then girls. Why are video games more appealing to guys then girls?

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Jeff Whipple said...

how do you measure your own success in school? marks? if so, what is success? 90? 75? 60?..if this is so punishing, what are the alternatives?

kennaw said...

TIM~

Do doctors do that because they are making you feel comfortable and more relaxed? Or is it for themselves and play?

Dan Maas said...

So there's a time for everything. If we believe play is a good thing, does that mean we believe everything should be play? Is life that black-and-white?

rrapp said...

you don't laugh at every job! you can play at every job, laughter isn't the ONLY type of play...people are only considering laughing.

OliviaO said...

Some people seem really against play in the inner circle. Ahem. Why are certain people against play and others are not?

Tim said...

lisal: could it be that so many videogames have physical or violent themes? I'm not trying to push any kind of stereotype but that's an off the top of my head thought.

AlyssaC said...

Do you think that when your too focused, and you don't incorporate play, that you have a larger tendency to make mistakes?

kelseyl said...

Jeff

That is a good question, I think that it might be kind of hard to measure "learing" without tests and marks. But I think that schools should be more lenient with mistakes that are made, so that we can learn from our mistakes.

MattN said...

Lisa, Ya totally Well I think that video games like football or halo or whatever are more appealing to guys, and come'on, how many barbie video games are there!!

emilyh said...

Jeff, I think it would be virtually impossible to measure learning without punishing with poor marks because then there would not be a way to measure improvement.

Mikenn@R said...

Dan- I agree. Life is so much more than just two sides and black and white, which kind of makes me want to look at our brains as more than just two sides.......

Tim said...

kennaw: probably a little of both. Most do it to relax the atmosphere in the operating room for themselves and the rest of their team.

kennaw said...

LISA~

I think it's because guys are into action, car racing, and stuff like that. Video games these days are all about shooting other people killing a mummy or something. They have more ACTION. Girls usually aren't as into that kind of stuff so we don't really like that. Plus playing games for hours requires you to not do anything, but sit and play. I personally and most girls aren't about sitting and starring at a t.v. screen for hours. :)

OliviaO said...

Lisa guys might like video games more than girls because it is simpler and an easy way to forget about your problems and get into another fantasy world.

KelsieL said...

Lisa- That's a really good question. I think guys have a one track mind in a way and playing video games allows them to sit and do one thing. They can hang out with their friends without doing seven things at once like girls do.

AlyssaC said...

Dan: No life is not black and white, nothing is really ever black, and white, I think that play should be incorporated into many things, but there will always be grey areas, like surgery and other tasks, where peole disagree on including play

hollyb said...

lisa: I think that boys like violence more that girls and that they want express themselves in that kind of way.

PS: I'm not talking about all guys!

MattN said...

Kenna-Well said, video games these days plain and simple appeal to guys more

AmberG said...

Alyssa, I really think so. There have been times when I work on a project for 3 hours, and when I go to look over it, I find a ton of errors because I was pushing to get it done, not to do it and relax.

Caryn S said...

Emily-I agree. I just think people put too much pressure on people to get good marks, so poor marks is seen as a true punishment.

kelseyl said...

Emily

So if you weren't getting grades in all of your classes would you be able to see how you are improving?

How about with sports, they aren't measured or graded, how do you know that you are gettting better at those?

Tim said...

KelsieL: Thanks. I like to believe I have more than one track to work with. :-)

OliviaO said...

What different types of play are there?

Jeff Whipple said...

@kelsey and @emily but what are we measuring with tests? how much information you can take in, regurgitate and then forget...is that really learning?

erinp said...

Lisa:
I think it's the same reason we like shopping. It's fun. Guys don't really like shopping as much. And I know that sounds stereotypical, but more girls seem to like shopping than guys, and more guys seem to like videogames more than girls.

kennaw said...

MATTN~

Ha i totally agree!!! Sports and action are what the boys like to play now and days. I think the companies that make games are more biased in making them towards guys then girls because they'll get more sales.

Dan Maas said...

http://www.learningcircuits.org/2001/feb2001/prensky.htm

This link has a report on how video games are being used by the military to train personnel

Dan Maas said...

http://www.learningcircuits.org/2001/feb2001/prensky.htm

This link has a report on how video games are being used by the military to train personnel

Dan Maas said...

http://www.learningcircuits.org/2001/feb2001/prensky.htm

This link has a report on how video games are being used by the military to train personnel

emilyh said...

I think that there are more girls who play video games than we think. Maybe we just think that only boys like video games because society has created a stereotypethat boys are more violent.

Jennifer said...

Alyssa- I'm not sure whether the tendency to make mistakes is greater or not when you don't incorporate play, it's just easier to find your mistakes. When you incorporate play, you will see the opportunities in the mistakes that you made and learn from them rather than beat on yourself for messing up.

mollyd said...

Emily- In sports you can see your improvement by how well you perform in games. You practice the skills and then you see how well you have improved them while in the game.

KelsieL said...

Tim- I didn't mean you only have one track at all! I just think grils are better at multi-tasking and doing more than one thing at once :)

lisal said...

Thanks for everybody's answers. Do you think girls should try and play more video games? Would that be a good thing?

Tim said...

Has anyone done anything with Second Life? Many colleges are experimenting with using SL in their classes. So, is that play or work?

Jeff Whipple said...

If play encourages failure, do we really want that in all workplaces? or is play something else at times?

AmberG said...

Olivia, I think the types of play are pyshical play like sports, laughing, hanging with friends, and even making a fun story up in your head or thinking of something really funny that happened last week.

kelseyl said...

Jeff

I totally agree because there are muliple things that I have just studied just so that I can get the grade on the test and then by the next week I have already forgotten all the stuff that was on the test. But then there are times when if the information is taught to me in a different way or if it is playing to learn, then I will remember better because I have something to connect it to.

mollyd said...

Guys are more associated with videogames, because whenever you here opposition to videogames, it usually comes from a girl.

MattN said...

Lisa, I think that if girls interests were gaming then that's great but I don't think girls should play video games just to prove guys wrong.

hollyb said...

Heres a question.

Why do you think games have evolved fromed Pac-man to Halo

Caryn S said...

Holly-I think our society has become more violent.

AmberG said...

Jeff, I don't think play encourages failure. I think it is a good way to learn and a nice way to relax. So I would like it in the work place.

mollyd said...

Holly- I think games are improved, because technology has improved, which allows for more complicated and different games.

lisal said...

I think people can learn from video games but you also have to be careful not to let the video games consume your individual feelings.

emilyh said...

Kelsey, I think meant that poor marks are not always physical-a letter on a peice of paper. In sports when a coach tell us that we are doing well, then that is a good mark and when we are doing bad, a poor mark. They can also be verbal. I think if you continue to do well you are improving by sustaining those grades.

kennaw said...

DAN~

I went to the site you suggested about military using games. And like I said before I think they use it because it's similar to real life. They are applying it to their skills. They are applying it to their lives, but the difference is that they aren't using it in a school or a sports games. It's the army they should use it and they'll have to use it. they are using the lessons from the games wisely to help themselves survive in the war.

MattN said...

Holly, Because people want more excitment and not playing something that is always giving you new challenges.

OliviaO said...

Lisa- Video games affect everyone differently.. Alot of girls already do play games and there is still a pretty big industry based on videogames for girls and there are alot of video games that both boys and girls like to play. Video games arent exactly gender specific and it just seems that a certain gender(guys) like that game.

Mikenn@R said...

Amber I agree.

@Jeff- How do you think play encourage failure?

Tim said...

AmberG: I agree. Play doesn't encourage failure but it does forgive and allow people to have second and third attempts to succeed. I think play encourages success.

KelsieL said...

Holly- I think the people who make the games are always coming up with the newest, hottest model so that the players will buy. But more than that, they want to keep the players attention.

kennaw said...

HOLLY~

I think video games evolved from that because they got boring. Kids figured out how to beat the game easily and they got bored sitting there for hours playing something they already knew how to beat. People stopped buying and so companies came out with more interesting games of our time that kids wouldn't be able to beat right away. Games that change every time you play it and keep you hooked and don't get bored.

AmberG said...

Holly, our world is more violent and war games are a good way to show how great video graphics we have come up with.

Tim said...

What about running down people in the street? Kids will get access to cars. :-)

kennaw said...

LISA~

I think if girls want to they should. But just like video games are more towards boys, girls have other interests more towards them that girls would rather do and boys wouldn't. That is okay!

Jeff Whipple said...

@mikenn@R Dan had suggested a definition of play that didn't punish failure...but saw failure as a part of the process...if that is true...can all spaces involve play?

hollyb said...

Do you think that our parents and that people in their 40's or 50's that would enjoy pac-man more or halo more?

KelsieL said...

Caryn- How has our society become more violent? Are we more violent now than when the KKK was running around lynching people?

lisal said...

I think Catherine D. is taking the impact of video games too seriously. My younger brothers play violent game and it doesn't make them more violent and they know its all make-believe.

Jennifer said...

Amber- that's true. videogames like that kind of introduce the real world to people, especially younger people

OliviaO said...

tim-Do you think kids will have the same set of mind as if they were in a game when they are driving? Kids will probably be able to seperate reality from fantasy when they get their licenses.

kelseyl said...

Holly

I think that they would enjoy pac-man way more, because they grew up with that kind of video game. Now they just don't really know how to play the new games and they just find them so much more complicated.

AmberG said...

For the boys vs. girls thing. I like video games but I would prefer Pac-man to Halo. That is just girls nature.

lisal said...

Kelsie: Great point! I don't think our society is any more violent the in our past. Bad things are going to happen and you can't blame them on videogames.

Caryn S said...

Sorry Kelsie-I didn't really phrase that right. I think the media has promoted violence more than they used to.

Tim said...

OliviaO: you're right. The vast majority of kids will be able to keep reality and the games separate. I was just making a comment to something someone said in the classroom discussion.

Mikenn@R said...

@ Jeff- Well don't businesses have failure too? but that doesn't mean they stop working.

Jennifer said...

like delaney in the inner-circle is saying, what is the difference between violent video games and violent movies?

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